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that there was a Time, and a Time of many successive Ages, when neither the Church of Rome, nor the Churches which were in Communion with it (or with which it was in Communion) taught, or received those Doctrines, as true, much less as primitive, ancient Doctrines of Faith, which were once delivered to the Saints. And as nonsensical as perhaps you may call this Persuasion, I am one of the many Myriads of nonsenfical Fellows that are so persuaded; and out of the Plerophory of my nonsensical Persuasion I made that Challenge to my Adversary, which you undertook to Answer; and with what Success and Honour to your self, to your Church, or the Council of Trent, you have performed what you undertook, let the Reader judge. Methinks, Sir, the Reverence you ought to have for the Greek Church, should have made you forbear charging all with Nonsense, who deny those Doctrines to be Universal : For though the Greek Church teaches, and practices fome of them, as well as you, and of late Years hath adopted the Doctrine of Transubstantiation by name, yet they reject others of them, as new, and false, and peculiar to your Church, which would be thought the Mother, and Mistress of all Churches; and have all other Bishops swear Obedience to her Bishop, as Successor to St. Peter, and Vicar-General of Jesus Christ. Neilus, the learned Archbishop of Thessalonica, a Church planted by the Apostle ; Barlaam, the learned Greek Monk, and of later Years Ne&tarius, the learned Patriarch of Hierufalem, are some of those nonsensical Greeks, who believe those Do&rines to be peculiar to the Church of Rome , which with the National Churches in Communion with it, they do not believe to be the Catholick, or Catholick Universal Church. But, Sir, to acquit our selves who are of the Reformation from the charge of Nonsense, I must tell you, that though we believe all the Trent-Doctrines to be New, and

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affirm them to be no part of the ancient Faith, yet we do not say, that they are, or even were all peculiar to your Church. To be sure they were not peculiar to her in the pure, and happy A postolick Ages, when she knew nothing of them; and since the times of Corruption, in which she espoufed them as Articles of Faith, several of them have been common to her and the Greek Church. But, Sir, whether out of design, or no, I cannot tell, you confound the Charge of Novelty, and Peculiarity together: And thus go on ; And consequently they were not Universal and Catholick. True, Sir, And that the Pope by managing the Council of Trent, engaged the Fathers of that Council to draw up those peculiar Romish Doctrines into Articles of Faith. How the Popes managed that pretended General Council, the World knows very well out of your own Writers, and in a little time is like to know better : And it was by their management most certainly, that the Fathers declared those new and false, which you call peculiar Doctrines into Points of Faith.

And conclude, that those Doctrines have been no longer Catholick, than they have been trim'd into Articles by the Council of Trent. What fad stuff is this, Sir, from a Man of Letters! for you know we do ont own those Doctrines at all to be Catholick, neither before nor fince the Trent-Fathers dubb'd them into Articles of Faith. But what follows is more intolerable: And say, that before the Council they were only Romish Doctrines, but that this Council having put them into Articles of a Creed,' from that time they first began to be Catholick and Universal ; so that the Doctrines which at first were only Errors of the Church of Rome, became Errors of the Catholick [Church]. What a jumble of Sophiftry is here to no purpose, but to confound an unskilful Woman : For who faith, Sir, that the Trent-Dotrines in general, before the Council, were only

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Romish Doctrines, or that they commenced Catho. lick and Universal, after they were put into the Creed ? If by Catholick, Universal, you mean, as you should do, Quod ubique, quod semper, quod ab omnibus creditum eft, they were never Catholick, Universal, neither before, nor since they were put into the Creed : Nor doth the asserting of them to be as you will have it, at first only Errors of the Church of Rome, make them to become Errors of the Catholick, but only of the Latin Church. But vainly presuming that the Church of Rome, and the Churches that are in Communion with it, exclus sively of all others, are the Catholick, or Catholick Universal Church : then you run on like mad, saying, This nonsentical Whim repugnant to all truth of Fact and History, prevails so much. Pray, good Sir, what nonfenfical Whim do you mean? Is it the Whim of saying, That the Trent-Do&trines before the Council, were only Romis DoEtrines ? this is no Whim of ours. Or is it the saying, That they began to be Catholick, Universal Doctrines from the time they were put into the Creed? That, Sir, is your own Whim, as likewife the other is your own Whim of a consequence, That if they were at first only Errors of the Church of Rome, they became Errors of the Catholick Church, by being put into the Creed: Asif Pius's Creed were the Creed of the Catholick Church. This Whim indeed, as you say, is a nonsensical Whim, and contrary to all truth of Fact and History. But supposing it to be ours, and not your own; you say it prevails so much, that Thousands who even doubt of their Salvation by living in Schism from the Catholick Universal Church, yet foolishly think themselves of fo tender Consciences, that they cannot safely be united to the Catholick Church of their Time, because the Errors which were once peculiar to the Church of Rome, by the Pope's management of the Council of Trent became Catholick. Bỹ this Noun of Multitude [Thousands,] you mean

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the People of the Church of England; whom in the First place, you misrepresent, as not thinking themselves safe in the Communion of our Church, though they are as fully satisfied with the fafé Condition of their Souls in it, as if they had liv'd in any of the Primitive Churches, when the Universal Church composed of all Churches, had but one Faith, and one Communion ; and every Church was as Catholick and A postolick, as the Roman ; and other Churches were no more in Communion with her, or upon any other score, than she was with all and every one of them. Secondly, You represent them as an unthinking sort of People, who being dissatisfied with their own Church, yet dare not unite themselves to the Catholick Church of their time, that is, to your Church; because the Errors of it, by the Pope's management of the Council of Trent are become Catholick. But do you think, Sir, they are such Ophes as not to understand that Catholick Errors is a contradiction in Terms. They know, and believe, that no Council can make Errors become Catholick Doctrines, especially Doetrines of Faith, and that no Church can be the Catholick Church of their, or any other time, which imposes and professes known Errors for Doctrines of Faith ; and therefore they cannot safely unite themselves to your uncatholick Church. Or by Thousands, it may be you mean the great number of Dissenters from the Church of England, who think themselves not safe in the Communion of it, and yet have such a foolish tenderness of Conscience as will not let them turn Papists, or if you please Roman Catholicks: And this is matter of Grief and Offence to you, that when you unsettle our People, and make them doubt of their Salvation in the Church of England, yet you cannot so easily bring them over to the Church of Rome. You by your Sophistry brought the Lady to doubt, if the Church of England was such a Church in which

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Salvation might be obtained, and in this uncertainty she hath been ever since I corresponded with her; when her foolish tenderness of Conscience as yet had not permitted her to embrace your Communion. But it may be you have since cured her of that weakness, and if she is come over to you, she hath made a fad exchange; for which she must be answerable to God for profesling so many great Errors, and practising so many great Corruptions, from which the Church of England, the Object of your Envy and Indignation, hath reformed, as all others ought to do.

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and Tautolo. gy, not worth tranfcribing; and proceeds upon that most nauseous, precarious, and prefumptuous supposition, contrary to common Sense, which is in every period of your Paper; that your Church is the Catholick Church. The Query which you there put about the Protestant Divines, and which you say puzzles wiser Men than your felf, will easily be answered by any Person of common Understanding, that can but see how you beg the great Question between you and us, as all your Writers shamefully do; and suppose what you should, but can never prove, as I shall hereafter Shew, viz. that the Church of Rome is the Catholick Church.

These Divines, say you, forced as it were by the Exorcism of Truth, extol t'e Authority of the Catholick Church, in defining against Hereticks in the first as General Councils ; and tell you, that if they had liv'd in these Days they must have been either in Communion with that Catholick Church, or have been damnable Schismaticks. That, say they, was a Catholick Church indeed, free from Romish Errors : Nor mere the Trent-Articles, or the Creed of Pius IV. known to that Catholick Church. Sir, not to observe in what course Language you make our Divines speak, I

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